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Please, no posting of links or URLs in the comment area. This area is for your commentary, links will be deleted from posts.THIS KID APPARENTLY HAS ISSUES......STRONG ARMED ROBBERY? COME ON. HE BROKE THE PHONE, THATS VANDALISM AT BEST. LETS GET HIM SOME HELP, HES 14 FOR GODS SAKE !! HE NEEDS TO TREATED ELSEWHERE IF THEY CANT KEEP HIM SAFE FROM HIMSELF OR OTHERS. TREAT HIM.......DONT JAIL HIM.
Was the dog naked too?
Naked robbers, Paris Hilton, Brittany Spears, Lindsay Lohan, Pitt & Jolie, all distractions. While mainstream media creates illusions, the U.S. gov't steps on our throats by opening our mail, suspending habeas corpus, stealing private lands, banning books like "America Deceived" from Amazon, Wikipedia and Facebook, conducting warrantless wiretaps and starting illegal wars. Impeach them all and end this madness. Final link (until Google Books bends to pressure and drops the title): http://www.iuniverse.com/Bookstore/BookDetail.aspx?BookId=SKU-000083883
How many more times must we hear stories about 14 year old naked boys with large white poodles escaping from behavioral facilities before we take finally decide to take action?!
To the dunce who wrote the first comment. Your version of the law matters not. What matters is what the legislature adopted and the governor signed into law. The woman was assaulted when the boy hit her and grabbed the phone. His taking the phone with intent to deprive her of it was the robbery. We hold people accountable for their acts. If the boy is found to be unable to formulate the requisite intent because of his mental state, then he may skate on the charges, but the state is likely to move him to a far more secure facility. The woman may sue the facility that twice failed to supervise him adequately by allowing him to escape.
I refuse to take any action that involves a naked 14 year old boy and a poodle, sorry. Jack, that was the old bunch of dishonest psychopathic nut jobs doing those things. We now have an entirely different bunch of dishonest psychopathic nut jobs doing entirely different immoral and dishonest things. Obviously the government has altered your perception of reality. Please get with the program!
Take a breath Jack. The book is available on Amazon, and it's in stock... Spam that it is. Try reading a real conservative book, by a real conservative author.
The kid committed a strong-arm robbery because he committed a theft by force. The assault/battery charge is because he PUSHED the victim. He didn't just put her in fear of being harmed, he touched her. Thus the battery. Looks to me like some of you conveniently leave out facts so the only one that remains is 'he broke a phone'.
Why refer to the race of the Poodle? White Poodles, Black Poodles? Who cares? What happened to having a colorblind society?
Someone should be looking into this behavioral facility. Why not name the facility? Why is there a dog available? You'd think that in one of these facilities, the dogs would be locked away from the patients as well. If so, he has to break in there, and then break out altogether. Someone should definitely look into this place. Pretty lazy reporting.
Quote: The young naked man approached her with this poodle, and she immediately realized something peculiar,” Mast said. Duh!
...poor dog
America Deceived is for sale on Amazon.com its in stock and sells for 11.95 and if you order today you can get it Monday 3/23/09. And dont forget Jack, it was all GW's fault. So Jack, better look under your bed for the boogie man.
If this had happened in England, the woman would have been arrested for inappropriate contact with a minor. If found guilty of a charge in connection with this matter, her name woulb be added to the paeophile register where it would remain for five years. She'd be ordered to pay £1,000 tot he boy for his distress. Her career would be over, her life a living hell. The boy would be sent on safari to Africa.
JACK: Illegal war? Sorry, but when hundreds of thousands of citizens are being shredded alive for “displeasing” their totalitarian dictator, no “war” is illegal. You have no problems “imagining” that this wonderful FREE country is “messing with your rights” to purchase copies of a book [Amazon has that silly book available; along with piles of other ANTI-AMERICAN publications] yet, in comparison, you are not able to imagine the complete HORROR of being stuffed into a machine, feet first, that has whirling blades that first cut off your feet, then your ankles than your calves, then your knees, with pain is so excruciating that you pass out from the pain before your thighs, genitals, buttocks, torso, and finally arms, have been turned into a 50 gallon bucket of bloody compost, with nothing left but chunks of bones from your bloody skull! Or, would you have been one of the LUCKY ones who only got his tongue cut out for offending the “ruling family?” Or, had an arm or leg cut off? Wow, just imagine living in a country with NO facilities for the handicapped; you can “scoot along on the ground” or learn to beg, or try to EAT WITH NO TONGUE!!! The totalitarian dictator acted like a really fine gentleman, and the world thought he was a pretty good guy, who lived in fabulous palaces, and dressed well, and ate well, and entertained, and had priceless art and furniture and carpets, and worshipped Allah, while stealing oil money from his citizens, but since his actions weren’t front page news, why would anyone care about any one person not wanting to be murdered in a heinous fashion? Since the insane totalitarian dictator, and his equally insane sons, shredded, murdered, mutilated, and bull-dozed mass graves, for HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of citizens, who cares about a single person? Guess what, Jack, President Bush cared! And he saved millions of lives by caring. He is a saint and YOU are a fruitcake! Hating America is becoming a cottage industry! TRY LIFE IN A REAL THIRD WORLD COUNTRY, then come back here and complain about a stupid book!
I agree with Don and Monroe in that the charges here were over-rated and the 14 year old kid did not have proper supervision to begin with. Is it the kid's fault? NO! He definitely has mental issues that need to be addressed with psychiatrists and other counselors and medications. Charging a mentally challenged youth with felonies is not going to cure him, nor make society safer. The facility in question muffed the ball twice in a row with the same patient, and that administrator and staff stand fully accountable by law and common sense. Even the police here knew who it was the SECOND TIME! I just hope the judge in Saginaw sees it this way and gets him the needed help. He is not going to be any regular citizen after serving a long jail/prison sentence; he will probably sink deeper into depression/regression and be more hostile than ever when released down the road. That isn't a positive for him nor society later.
DON: Apparently you are not aware that 5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12, and 13 year olds have COMMITTED MURDER! Your old “he’s 14 for G-d’s sake” escuse is ridiculous. Perhaps if the woman were someone YOU cared about, you might put his criminal behavior in perspective. Oh, that’s right, you only care about the rights of creeps and perps; innocent citizens are on their own in your goofy world!
I'm sure that this is somehow or in someway Bush's fault....right?
I wouldn't get too up in arms about this boy being charged with these crimes. Often the way our legal and mental health system works requires someone to break a law and face serious crimes to involuntarily bind them into mental health treatment. Until a person is forced by the court system to address mental illness because they are a danger to themselves or others, it's voluntary. I highly doubt he'll ever see a day of actual jail time over the situation..
OBVIOUSLY the boy is in need of counseling and mental illness..however, he could have been drugged by the facility and thus didn't know if this was a dream or reality..(remember one flew over the coo coo's nest?) BUT TO CHARGE HIM WITH STRONG ARMED ROBBERY- YOU PEOPLE NEED TO GET A LIFE! ONLY a DAMN IDIOT WOULD CHARGE THIS KID WITH MORE THAN INDECENT EXPOSURE AND PETTY THEFT/VANDALISM...
Raj, Sergaent, and Scanlon, please note, if this was your son, would you be so dicatorial and lack human compassion? Would ya? If so, please move to CUBA where you can appreciate the law at it's best. No system of checks and balances, just NAZI-type persecution. The BOY in question here is mentally deficient, and the mental/hospital facility is still the main root of the escape and behavior of a patient that needed close supervision, apparently lacking or deficient by the hospital adminstrator and the staff he is responsible for. Want to crucify someone, a true felon, fine, not some Naked KID, scope them out first! Act like ADULTS YOURSELVES, not law-and-order NAZIS. We already fought that war 60 years ago and won freedom and human rights here and around Western Europe.
Silent Guild is right too. A person thinking normal and making a post that is intelligent and positive. Like we need to prosecute and jail a boy, that's right, not a legal adult nor a deadly dangerous juvenile to society. Our collective thinking does not make society more dangerous, it simply addresses the necessary actions and reactions to a sad story. I never have and never will defend a juvenile that has cost lives or endangered lives, even if mentally incompetent. The lady here could have just gone in her house and made that 911 call, or just waited for him to get far enough away to make the call. Btw, most of our new cell phone are fli
The Scanlon post here just shows the mentality of people whom believe in simple black and white values and legalities. No checks and balance system for him, just a simple, crucify anyone whom breaks the law, to the fullest extent, no matter the consequences down the road to society. No matter the circumstances involved. I'm glad we are not yet a dictatorship like he seems to want. Good common sense must prevail in a free, constitution, oriented society. Running naked at 14 years of age makes you a monster, a felon? PLEASE! Breaking a cell phone that has a chineese hinge makes you a 14 year old monster? PLEASE! Get real, quit accusing posters with human values and common sense as being lawless and big liberal wussies. We aren't! Fit the crime and circustances to the situation and then make a judgement as to it's seriousness. And think it out, carefully, and with humane insticts. That, alone wil
Raj, Sergeant, and Scanlan, this boy has mental issues! Plain and simple! He's a boy, not a man! And not worthy of being classified a FELON! What if it was YOUR SON? Would you be so dicatorial and decisively committed to him being incarcerated, with REAL CRIMINALS? The kind that might rape him? Beat the daylights out of him? Kill him? Have just the least little common sense and compassion people. Those flip-phones can break with the simple flip to open. The woman here was not seriously assaulted, and pretty much, made a stupid decision to make the 911 call when and where she did. She simply should have walked away and made that call 30 seconds later and elsewhere. She was not hospitalized nor saught medical attention. So put the BOY away for a lengthy period? NO! Just get him the help needed and see if it works. Like I said previously, the mental/security ward is the root of the problem here, not the BOY whom lacks normal mental functions. This failed mentality is what has the USA as the largest prison population and facilities in the world to day
This kid has mental issues, get him some help. He is not a felon, BUT if you treat him like one, he may become one. There does seem to be a problem with the institution he was in.
This boy has a Mental Illness.. get over it, he got away from his boundries, someone dropped the ball and let him wander away, this is the consequence, live and learn. I work with children with mental illness everyday. Everyday I get hit, kicked, bit scratched. Charges are not brought against them every time They do it. These kids need compassionate care not neglegent care which this is obviously a result of. OFten these kids can be doing just great in a facility and deemed "JUST FINE" and instantly change to relapse back to something again. Blame it on the STATE AND GOVERNMENT SHUTTING DOWN STATE FACILITIES TO HELP HANDLE THESE CASES. The failure is in a corrupt disgusting health care system resulting is poorly paid workers, under education and lack of CARE.
Did anyone think of maybe the place took his clothing? You do not know what happens behind closed doors... Does he need help yes does he need jail time, fines probation NO. At 14 he will get a hand slap until he does something worse ... or until he reaches 17 years old .
WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO GET THESE POODLES OFF THE STREETS?!?!?!?






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